Winnie said:
“I myself could defend Bro Eli Soriano if his life is in danger, if somebody want to kill him, then I am obliged to help. However, I will not do it because of the faith he is peddling.Odan Matig-a is right in the sense that, people should not be ready to die for wrong reason. If you die for the wrong faith, a man-made faith then that is not a good reason.
Let us analyze first their exchanges. OdanMatig-a was first responding to one of my write-ups to which Winnie rejoined. Let’s begin with what OdanMatig-a posted.
Odan Matig-a posted:
“Why? Is your faith with your Bro. Eli? The Catholics during the Roman Empire died for their faith in Christ and not for the apostles.”
Winnie said that Odan Matig-a is right about what he posted:
“Why? Is your faith with your Bro. Eli? The Catholics during the Roman Empire died for their faith in Christ and not for the apostles.”
And Winnie’s analysis is this:
“Odan Matig-a is right in the sense that, people should not be ready to die for wrong reason. If you die for the wrong faith, a man-made faith then that is not a good reason.”
So, as Winnie had analyzed, is dying for the apostles a wrong reason? Is that what you have understood in the post of OdanMatig-a? It’s either that you do not know how to read or you are not in the proper state of mind! I will not say I love you as you hypocritically say that to me! I pity you!
The first century Christians were taught to lay down their lives or “be ready to die” for their brethren.
I JOHN 3:16
Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
Let us review.
Odan Matig-a said:
“The Catholics during the Roman Empire died for their faith in Christ and not for the apostles.” “…and not for the apostles.” (Emphasis mine.)
Winnie, can you not perceive what is wrong in what OdanMatig-a said?
By saying he is right, aren’t you implying that the apostles were wrong in their teaching that a Christian must be ready to lay their lives for a brother?
You (Winnie) said:
“I myself could defend Bro Eli Soriano if his life is in danger, if somebody wants to kill him, then I am obliged to help. However, I will not do it because of the faith he is peddling.”
That was what you posted. The truth is, it is very unnecessary for you to die for me! Thank you anyway for your concern. But the Lord Jesus Christ had died – already -for all of the faithful, including me. And mind you, I am not peddling faith like your Catholic priests do! In our faith, we do not sell baptisms, marriage ceremonies, indulgences and whatever church services!
MATTHEW 10:7-8
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
A friendly advice to Winnie: Do not meddle in a discussion between me and another person!
PROVERBS 26:17
He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.
Here’s more for you, Winnie :
Why will you (Winnie) say that you can’t anymore find my posts about the “truth” being preached from the east to the west? Blogs posted on this site are meant to stay for public consumption and they are not withdrawn!
You said:
“Yes, a lot of people believe fables to be true. Like your fables, claiming the fulfillment of Malachi 1:11. There is no way you can defend it, i cannot even find it anymore your post, from the east to the west. Is it because it is based on a shaky foundation and myth? Just asking.”
I had been quoting you to the dots, spacing, punctuation, and all – no changes. Aren’t you asking or haven’t you prejudged that I cannot defend my faith? Are you a priest or an authority of the Roman Catholic Church? If you are not, call your priests or cardinals, or even your pope, and I will defend my faith and prove to the entire world that the Roman Catholic Church is not the church established by the Lord Jesus Christ!
Be true to yourself because if you cannot, how can you be true to others? Judging is different from asking! It’s that simple!
You said:
“Jesus used hyperbole in Matthew 23:8-9. Jesus employed type of teaching to make his point but he did not literally forbid calling other humans these, master, father, teacher”.
I quote again these verses:
MATTHEW 23:8-9
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
When you said:
“…he did not literally forbid to call other humans these, master, father, teacher…”, and that he used hyperbole in the preceding verses, what will be the “otherwise”?
If it is not a literal prohibition to call humans father, then it must be spiritual! If used to a literal or physical father it is not prohibited to call him “father,” but as your explanation implied, aren’t Catholic priests and popes literal and physical “father”?
What kind of father are they?
You are certainly mixed-up! Kawawa ka naman! May the Lord enlighten your mind!
Source: Bro Eliseo Soriano
Source: Bro Eliseo Soriano
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