My answers to these Catholic apologists are long overdue! A busy schedule hindered me from posting as early as necessary, but I did not consider this a priority as in having to deal with kids or monstrous liars! I want to answer them now one by one, paragraph after paragraph!
They said:
“If you die for a preacher then you are a cultist and a fanatic. If he [Mr. Eli Soriano] was sent by God he must have a message coming from God. For example is; he must have written a book that is a revelation to him from God… like Moses and St. Paul.”
“If you die for a preacher then you are a cultist and a fanatic.” Says Odan Matig-a.
Answer: Priscilla and Aquila were both willing to die for their preacher, the Apostle Paul. Were they cultists and fanatics?
THE ROMANS 16:3-4
3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.
To lay down one’s life not only for a preacher but for the least of the brethren in Christ is not being fanatic, or a cultist. It is an act of love!
I JOHN 3:16
Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
Winnie said:
“If he [Mr. Eli Soriano] was sent by God he must have a message coming from God. For example is; he must have written a book that is a revelation to him from God… like Moses and St. Paul.”
Answer: Timothy was sent by God and the Lord Jesus.
PHILIPPIANS 2:19
But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state.
Did Timothy write a book? There is no book in the Bible written by Timothy! Another form of ignorance from a Catholic apologist!
Thomas, James (There were two James elected to be apostles), Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, and Simon the Canaanite, were all sent by God but they did not write like the other apostles!
MATTHEW 10:2-6
2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus whose surname was Thaddaeus;
4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
OdanMatig-a said:
“Winnie’s reasoning is correct! You misunderstood Winnie when you asked, “Is dying for the apostles a wrong reason?” You are way out of the premise Mr. Soriano! The premise is this: “Why? Is your faith with your Bro. Eli? The Catholics during the Roman Empire died for their faith in Christ and not for the apostles.”
So, it is about you and the faith of your follower/followers and not about the apostles.”
Repeat:
“You are way out of the premise Mr. Soriano! The premise is this: “Why? Is your faith with your Bro. Eli? The Catholics during the Roman Empire died for their faith in Christ and not for the apostles.”
Answer: The premise is what you said, “The Catholics during the Roman Empire died for their faith in Christ and not for the apostles.”
The Christians, (not Catholics) during the incumbency of the Roman Empire did not only die for their faith in Jesus but were willing to, for the preachers sent to them by Jesus, and one of them is Epapharoditus.
PHILIPPIANS 2:25-26, 30
25 Yet I supposed it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother, and companion in labor, and fellow soldier, but your messenger, and he that ministered to my wants.
26 For he longed after you all, and was full of heaviness, because that ye had heard that he had been sick.
30 Because for the work of Christ he was nigh unto death, not regarding his life, to supply your lack of service toward me.
Epaphroditus, because of his services to the Apostle Paul, got sick near death.
When I asked OdanMatig-a, “Is dying for the apostles a wrong reason?” the Biblical answer must be NO! But Winnie butted in and went out of the way and said that to die for me and my wrong belief is not a good reason.
The point of contention is what OdanMatig-a previously said-
“The Catholics during the Roman Empire died for their faith in Christ and not for the apostles.”
OdanMatig-a is wrong because there were Christians who were willing to die for the apostles!
But Winnie stood for him and said:
“OdanMatig-a is right in the sense that, people should not be ready to die for wrong reason.”
Answer: OdanMatig-a did not say that, “…people should not be ready to die for wrong reason.”
What he said was: “The Catholics during the Roman Empire died for their faith in Christ and not for the apostles.”
Then came my (Bro. Eli) question: “Is dying for the apostles a wrong reason?”
Who then is out of context? YOU! Both of you!
Is dying for the apostles a wrong reason as OdanMatig-a claimed? Definitely NO!
THE ROMANS 16:3-4
3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.
These Catholic apologists are both confused! And yet they support each other. Their premeditated attempts at defending their own belief are most stupid and shallow!
I hope my readers are not as confused as they are!
Source: Bro Eliseo Soriano
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